[ he doesn't seem to mind that answer, and there's a faint smile because it's kind of nice people tried to actually talk to them. he can appreciate that. but right. she's here now, so. ]
I... created Ramiel. Not that body, pretty sure she did that herself after I died, but before. She was the result of solving a problem I needed to fix to try and help Gamaliel's dad. [ let's start there first, and then we can go back to gams. ]
A CI. Created Intelligence. Or Cloud Intelligence. She was the first of her kind, made from pieces of two UIs. She was initially made as a cure for UIs who were created with a flaw in their system. [ there's a slightly amused look. ] Her having her own consciousness wasn't exactly the plan, but guess I overshot it.
Yes. [ he doesn't even sound embarrassed or proud of that fact? he says it like it's a fact, like he's known he's a genius his entire life. ] Guess you could say making her was my life's work. It was a cure the smartest man in the world couldn't even solve before he died.
[ this, however, is a blip of loathing in his emotions, but also arrogance because fuck that guy in particular. ]
[ there's a pause, like he's deciding just how much of the truth he feels like telling her. he settles on telling her the more broad, relevant piece and not his own personal beef with this guy. ]
Used the code I created to have himself uploaded without the original flaw and created a plan to kill millions of people to force them to do the same to rule over them as their sovereign. [ you know. very normal things. ] Gamaliel and Ramiel were with me for that, too.
It's been a while since then, but Gamaliel and I were still trying to figure out how to make it work again before I accepted the job here. And I guess she accepted the job after me? [ unclear. he had no idea until opening weekend. ]
[ why are the emotions suddenly a little guilty and also a little annoyed (not at her) ]
No, I died. She knew that I had to in order to upload, and then... I was erased after that. Ramiel managed to pull me out and spent twenty years trying to remove the pieces of the antiviral from me, but she ran out of time and had to wake me up before it was too late. She needed me for something, and I knew that overclocking to catch up on the missed time would probably eliminate the time I had left, but I didn't have another option. I made the choice.
[ it was just harder after the fact because he saw gamaliel again and realized he really was going to die on her twice. this is about the point he realizes that's not even really what elysia was referencing in terms of when he might've left gams on read. ]
I don't know how, exactly, she did it but she brought me back again a while later. And we were working stuff out and... I didn't think she'd notice if I was gone for a few months. That's barely anything to us anymore.
[ she's not as gungho about romance as yves or koharu are, but when things read as romantic to her, she'll note it.
she does understand having to make a choice to leave, having no other option but to. she understands that all too well. ]
I can't speak for her, and I don't know how she feels about it, but I would have liked to know. Even if a few months is a drop in the ocean that's your sense of time, if I loved you, I would have liked to know.
[ she smiles. ]
At least now you two can continue to work it out now, right? Once we can connect more.
It's complicated. I don't think she would have been able to if she didn't know it'd work out. There was only one specific time, in one specific place, where she was alive, I could be alive, and our son would be alive. But maybe it is romantic to want to still be with me after all of this when I still think she deserved better.
[ and yet someone really tried to tell her he was dead again and she went "he's not getting off that easy" before yanking him into the correct timeline. it's fine. ]
Are we ignoring the part where she and Ramiel also said yes to the job without telling me? [ bemused. ] But I know. I should have. Maybe then we would've connected the sides sooner. My goal is to make everything's stable to return you to that side when your souls are healed. My relationship with Maddie's secondary.
[ first of all, no it's not, he's lowkey chomping at the walls to get back over there. second of all, does not register he just gave her actual name instead but whatever. ]
[ she's happy to get all this. thank you for the name and for the details that tell her just how romantic it is. at least she can be mostly normal about it. she smiles. ]
I'm weak to cute girls.
[ she'll cop to a double standard. ]
But if it could only one specific time, one specific place, that says more than enough. Why do so much, if she didn't want to try? If she didn't think you were worth it? I would appreciate it if someone like her said she still wanted to be with me even after leaving them not once but twice.
I think you can make both your goal at the same level. We're important. You're important. Your relationship is important. I don't think we need to rank it when it's possible to do all of them.
[ is there any foundation for her confidence or optimism? maybe not, but it's here. ]
That... makes two of us. [ listen, he's fine to admit that? of course he's weak to cute girls, look at his wife. ] But good to know where I stand in all of this.
[ ... ]
... Maddie's lost a lot of people in her life. She would've done probably anything to save all of us if she could. And... even if we might start over again, maybe we'll have a better shot this time.
[ he doesn't say anything for a second as he contemplates. ]
You don't think half the people in this place would get mad if I shifted some of my priorities around? Maybe they don't need to be ranked, but actually acknowledging it is different. I do think solving one will lead to solving the others though. And as nice as it is to see you, I never wanted you here. Or any of you. We were meant to be emergency back-up. And now it's almost a given the balance is going to change.
[ this is mostly kiraman once again taking on full responsibility for something and doubling down on his focus. ]
There's always hope if you have a future, if you get a second chance. If you're both willing to try and it's what you both want, why wouldn't it work out? It might not be easy, but from speaking to the both of you, you're both determined enough to accomplish it.
[ what with all the timelines and dying and coming back to life and dying and coming back to life. she gets it. she just wants better for them both. ]
I don't think you're the type to abandon your duty since you just told me how you chose to leave to do what you knew was right for the greater good. That's why I felt it was okay to say that to you. I know I haven't known you long, but it's a feeling I have after talking to you. You're always there monitoring and giving us information when you can.
It feels more to me like you'd abandon your chance at love for your duty first, so I think it's okay if this balance shifts a little, too. We're all here to offer what help we can. You're not alone in shouldering all the responsibility even if what we can do is limited.
[ he doesn't say anything, but the emotional feedback is basically something akin to agreement. slight gratitude. a little worry, because they're still separated, and because he does still carry the weight of the world in a way he knows he should probably not. ]
She got mad the first time I said I was gonna be the one to stop him. Because it was different, because she loved me. [ and gamaliel saying that is just one of the two things she's said to change his entire brain chemistry. ] So, okay. Maybe you're right. And maybe... a shift in the balance is okay, because all roads are leading back to that side anyway. [ it's fair. ]
There are going to be things you'll all need to do to help. Most of all focusing on your own healing. If your soul's not in the right shape by the time I fix the gate, we still can't let you leave. So it's not just about helping me, it's about helping each other, too.
A path for everybody. Right. [ thanks elysia. listen, he could talk about maddie all day if somebody let him because the man is so stupidly in love but he won't. instead... ]
What makes you say that anyway? I admire the confidence about the state of your soul, but. [ ma'am? ]
[ noooo she wants to listen to him talk about maddie all day, but she is fair(?) enough to answer a question directed at her when she basically ran him through 20 questions. ]
Because Elysia is Elysia, and just like how Gamaliel brought you back, I was also brought back by all my friends.
If I didn't have confidence in that, it'd be a great disservice to them.
[ she can ask him another 20 questions after she answers his 20 because he lifts both eyebrows in surprise and actually looks at her instead of watching where he's walking. ]
Brought back... how? [ he is polite enough not to go "what are you" but the question very much is "what are you?" which is rich, considering he's not exactly human anymore either. ] What happened?
I don't know how similar it is to your situation, but I'm a simulation. In a way, a copy, even if I'd say I'm still as much as Elysia as the one who existed outside where I'm from. Through a combination of technology and psychic abilities, a realm made from memories was created, so anyone who could could endure uploading all their memories could create a simulation of themself to live in that realm.
[ she isn't the tech or science savvy person of her group nor is she even the psychic ability user of her group, but she tries her best with explanations. ]
We shouldn't be able to deleted from the Elysian Realm, but I was by an unexpected and unwanted visitor, and my friends had to get creative and brought me back.
[ she says casually, even if it really wasn't a casual event. ]
A little similar. UIs and CIs are simulations, in a way. Digital uploads of the original minds and then creations made from two UIs. The difference is most UIs aren't copies. They're the same person.
[ does not explain why he says most. ]
So those memories created a cloud for other simulations to upload themselves to and live there. [ this is how he makes sense of it. hilariously similar. ] I feel like you're very calm about the fact you were deleted to begin with, Elysia. Did something come after you to erase you, too?
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[ he doesn't seem to mind that answer, and there's a faint smile because it's kind of nice people tried to actually talk to them. he can appreciate that. but right. she's here now, so. ]
I... created Ramiel. Not that body, pretty sure she did that herself after I died, but before. She was the result of solving a problem I needed to fix to try and help Gamaliel's dad. [ let's start there first, and then we can go back to gams. ]
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[ a guess based on seeing him be tech-y with the live stream yesterday. ]
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[ and now we have ramiel. ]
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she's not the most tech savvy, but she gets it enough. it correlates enough to her own everything. ]
You're the type that people call a genius, huh?
[ she's more amused than impressed, but she is impressed. ]
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Yes. [ he doesn't even sound embarrassed or proud of that fact? he says it like it's a fact, like he's known he's a genius his entire life. ] Guess you could say making her was my life's work. It was a cure the smartest man in the world couldn't even solve before he died.
[ this, however, is a blip of loathing in his emotions, but also arrogance because fuck that guy in particular. ]
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You're proud of beating this man. Or at least satisfied with it. What did he do?
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Used the code I created to have himself uploaded without the original flaw and created a plan to kill millions of people to force them to do the same to rule over them as their sovereign. [ you know. very normal things. ] Gamaliel and Ramiel were with me for that, too.
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Oh, a megalomaniac. Did he die.... in both ways? If he was uploaded.
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I made sure of it. [ and finally, he loops back to the other half. ] Even though it meant leaving my girlfriend behind.
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Girlfriend?
[ she looks from him, to his halo, to the direction a screen to the living could be.
she looks back to him. her vibes are, am i making the right assumption? ]
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It's been a while since then, but Gamaliel and I were still trying to figure out how to make it work again before I accepted the job here. And I guess she accepted the job after me? [ unclear. he had no idea until opening weekend. ]
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[ is this what she's hearing? ]
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No, I died. She knew that I had to in order to upload, and then... I was erased after that. Ramiel managed to pull me out and spent twenty years trying to remove the pieces of the antiviral from me, but she ran out of time and had to wake me up before it was too late. She needed me for something, and I knew that overclocking to catch up on the missed time would probably eliminate the time I had left, but I didn't have another option. I made the choice.
[ it was just harder after the fact because he saw gamaliel again and realized he really was going to die on her twice. this is about the point he realizes that's not even really what elysia was referencing in terms of when he might've left gams on read. ]
I don't know how, exactly, she did it but she brought me back again a while later. And we were working stuff out and... I didn't think she'd notice if I was gone for a few months. That's barely anything to us anymore.
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[ she's not as gungho about romance as yves or koharu are, but when things read as romantic to her, she'll note it.
she does understand having to make a choice to leave, having no other option but to. she understands that all too well. ]
I can't speak for her, and I don't know how she feels about it, but I would have liked to know. Even if a few months is a drop in the ocean that's your sense of time, if I loved you, I would have liked to know.
[ she smiles. ]
At least now you two can continue to work it out now, right? Once we can connect more.
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[ and yet someone really tried to tell her he was dead again and she went "he's not getting off that easy" before yanking him into the correct timeline. it's fine. ]
Are we ignoring the part where she and Ramiel also said yes to the job without telling me? [ bemused. ] But I know. I should have. Maybe then we would've connected the sides sooner. My goal is to make everything's stable to return you to that side when your souls are healed. My relationship with Maddie's secondary.
[ first of all, no it's not, he's lowkey chomping at the walls to get back over there. second of all, does not register he just gave her actual name instead but whatever. ]
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I'm weak to cute girls.
[ she'll cop to a double standard. ]
But if it could only one specific time, one specific place, that says more than enough. Why do so much, if she didn't want to try? If she didn't think you were worth it? I would appreciate it if someone like her said she still wanted to be with me even after leaving them not once but twice.
I think you can make both your goal at the same level. We're important. You're important. Your relationship is important. I don't think we need to rank it when it's possible to do all of them.
[ is there any foundation for her confidence or optimism? maybe not, but it's here. ]
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[ ... ]
... Maddie's lost a lot of people in her life. She would've done probably anything to save all of us if she could. And... even if we might start over again, maybe we'll have a better shot this time.
[ he doesn't say anything for a second as he contemplates. ]
You don't think half the people in this place would get mad if I shifted some of my priorities around? Maybe they don't need to be ranked, but actually acknowledging it is different. I do think solving one will lead to solving the others though. And as nice as it is to see you, I never wanted you here. Or any of you. We were meant to be emergency back-up. And now it's almost a given the balance is going to change.
[ this is mostly kiraman once again taking on full responsibility for something and doubling down on his focus. ]
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[ what with all the timelines and dying and coming back to life and dying and coming back to life. she gets it. she just wants better for them both. ]
I don't think you're the type to abandon your duty since you just told me how you chose to leave to do what you knew was right for the greater good. That's why I felt it was okay to say that to you. I know I haven't known you long, but it's a feeling I have after talking to you. You're always there monitoring and giving us information when you can.
It feels more to me like you'd abandon your chance at love for your duty first, so I think it's okay if this balance shifts a little, too. We're all here to offer what help we can. You're not alone in shouldering all the responsibility even if what we can do is limited.
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She got mad the first time I said I was gonna be the one to stop him. Because it was different, because she loved me. [ and gamaliel saying that is just one of the two things she's said to change his entire brain chemistry. ] So, okay. Maybe you're right. And maybe... a shift in the balance is okay, because all roads are leading back to that side anyway. [ it's fair. ]
There are going to be things you'll all need to do to help. Most of all focusing on your own healing. If your soul's not in the right shape by the time I fix the gate, we still can't let you leave. So it's not just about helping me, it's about helping each other, too.
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I'm so happy we agree. We're on this path together, and it's a path for all of us. For you, for her, for me, and everyone else.
[ she flashes a peace sign. ]
I don't think you have to worry about my healing. I'm pretty resilient in all ways. I don't know what my soul looks like, but I'm sure it's robust.
[ she has nothing to base this on. ]
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What makes you say that anyway? I admire the confidence about the state of your soul, but. [ ma'am? ]
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Because Elysia is Elysia, and just like how Gamaliel brought you back, I was also brought back by all my friends.
If I didn't have confidence in that, it'd be a great disservice to them.
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Brought back... how? [ he is polite enough not to go "what are you" but the question very much is "what are you?" which is rich, considering he's not exactly human anymore either. ] What happened?
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[ she isn't the tech or science savvy person of her group nor is she even the psychic ability user of her group, but she tries her best with explanations. ]
We shouldn't be able to deleted from the Elysian Realm, but I was by an unexpected and unwanted visitor, and my friends had to get creative and brought me back.
[ she says casually, even if it really wasn't a casual event. ]
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A little similar. UIs and CIs are simulations, in a way. Digital uploads of the original minds and then creations made from two UIs. The difference is most UIs aren't copies. They're the same person.
[ does not explain why he says most. ]
So those memories created a cloud for other simulations to upload themselves to and live there. [ this is how he makes sense of it. hilariously similar. ] I feel like you're very calm about the fact you were deleted to begin with, Elysia. Did something come after you to erase you, too?
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