I do. [ of course he does. of course he understands what a machine can do, but at the same time... ] But even straightforward answers need a bit of humanity attached to them. Other people have an impact no matter how much you think otherwise. There are some things you can't achieve without them, even if you're skilled.
[ kiraman, thinking of his girlfriend beating it into his skull that other people actually matter. ]
There has to be an answer that doesn't involve the merge. [ the answer is jayce in this instance, and it all goes back to other people. ] ...in every timeline except that one? Then... isn't the answer finding a timeline to set Jayce on an earlier path?
[He does not disagree. Now, that is. Before too, probably, when he was just a man.]
It is a delicate process. Dimensional time.
You see, Jayce needs me as much as I need him. His dream of magic wouldn't exist without me showing him its wonders. This is a simplification; we are not accounting for the weave of everyone else, those "other people" you mentioned.
They have their own timelines, and any minute divergence of them can vibrate the web. All I can do as I am is go back and offer Jayce another rune to use in the grand puzzle of our design, to give him a warning later about its dangers.
Perhaps he will, perhaps he has held the correct rune to create a perfect world with our Hextech dream. I won't ever see it, but a version of me will. Just like the version of me you've met here has reached the end of the path. Jayce has stopped him.
A self-contained loop. [ this feels familiar in ways he isn't entirely on the up and up about, but enough that he can grasp the concept. a universe where the actions were foreseen and the potential was seen, but actions were taken to push the other actions into fruition. ]
You're talking about chaos theory. Even with minute changes, there are patterns interwoven to each universe where the outcome will always, eventually, end the same way. Until you break the pattern. In that case, then what will this version of you do next? What if this wasn't really the end of the path?
[Caspian just squinting into the mirror with Viktor.]
That is up to him. So long as he does not make the same mistakes I did. It was always up to Jayce to show me that. He will have to see it, hear it from himself.
[ and here, kiraman goes quiet and seems to be thinking. things have worked out enough for him, but this is now just his own curiosity driving the questions. ]
Does that scare you? Leaving your work up to someone else in the end.
I didn't have another option. [ this does not answer if he was scared or not. ] A lonely existence shouldn't be a dead end. But for now, trust is all you have. For now.
[ kiraman going "what if upload but slightly left?" ]
[ this isn't wrong, even if it goes deeper than that. maybe viktor doesn't need to know the whole story though. ]
... the process of uploading allows a person to leave their body behind. Their mind, or a digital copy of their subconscious, is uploaded into the cloud without any restraints. The number of embodied humans left is very, very small.
Perhaps your version and my version are not as different as we think then. Everyone's minds were gathered into a single collective inside the space the Hexcore gave with the arcane. Their bodies became mechanical tethers instead.
The difference is they retained their individuality and their humanity. All of their thoughts and their emotions are their own. The cloud isn't a collective. Not like yours.
The space was interwoven. Their lives were interwoven. Thoughts and feelings were shared indiscriminately. But their minds were all connected to the conduit of the source: me.
Depends. Will he try to become the source in the center of what's meant to be an open world? The UIs already fought for their right to exist among the embodied. They don't need a conduit when they are meant to live freely.
... there was a man who wanted to be something of a sovereign, you could say. Said he had a vision, something that would change the whole world and he would lead them to the future. He was the one who initially created the upload technology, but there was a flaw in the way he did it.
When someone else fixed that flaw, it then became his plan to release a virus that would infect millions of people and force them to upload. To "save humanity."
[ this is a simplification of many things, but he's making a point. ]
It is a bit more complicated with us. Getting rid of me would destabilize all the people who had been helped and connected. Getting rid of the power of the Hexcore would merit the same results.
However, as I said, it was missing something. A particular rune. The Hexcore hadn't been perfected yet. If the Hexcore's puzzle can be completed, then things may not have to be so uniform. Maybe the single collective doesn't need to exist alongside the ability to heal.
[ again, all of this sounds so familiar! he is squinting in the mirror and he does not like it! ]
... when the flaw was in place in the first UIs, the faster they processed and the more energy they used, the faster their minds deteriorated. They were unstable to the point they would be destroyed if they kept functioning at their normal speeds. But when the cure was created, it became safer. Other UIs were able to be given the cure to stop the deterioration.
But the cure was other people. It was something the initial inventor hadn't considered before, and it's why he failed. Maybe the missing rune is... something outside of either of you.
[Yeah, suffer. They are the dog looking in the mirror.]
Perhaps that could be true. I don't believe it matters to me, or to the version of me here anymore. Though extending the message somehow to Jayce would be beneficial.
We will continue to try until the path changes, Jayce and I. Me setting the course in motion, and Jayce attempting to correct it.
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[ kiraman, thinking of his girlfriend beating it into his skull that other people actually matter. ]
There has to be an answer that doesn't involve the merge. [ the answer is jayce in this instance, and it all goes back to other people. ] ...in every timeline except that one? Then... isn't the answer finding a timeline to set Jayce on an earlier path?
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It is a delicate process. Dimensional time.
You see, Jayce needs me as much as I need him. His dream of magic wouldn't exist without me showing him its wonders. This is a simplification; we are not accounting for the weave of everyone else, those "other people" you mentioned.
They have their own timelines, and any minute divergence of them can vibrate the web. All I can do as I am is go back and offer Jayce another rune to use in the grand puzzle of our design, to give him a warning later about its dangers.
Perhaps he will, perhaps he has held the correct rune to create a perfect world with our Hextech dream. I won't ever see it, but a version of me will. Just like the version of me you've met here has reached the end of the path. Jayce has stopped him.
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You're talking about chaos theory. Even with minute changes, there are patterns interwoven to each universe where the outcome will always, eventually, end the same way. Until you break the pattern. In that case, then what will this version of you do next? What if this wasn't really the end of the path?
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That is up to him. So long as he does not make the same mistakes I did. It was always up to Jayce to show me that. He will have to see it, hear it from himself.
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Isn't there a way to send back some sort of message to make sure those mistakes aren't made? If Jayce is that influenced, maybe he'd listen.
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I already have. He has visited me in the world I destroyed. The rest is in Jayce's hands now.
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Does that scare you? Leaving your work up to someone else in the end.
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There is nothing left except myself and mechanical skeletons. I am more afraid of the understanding I will exist in lonely solitude.
I trust that Jayce can do it in at least one timeline.
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I didn't have another option. [ this does not answer if he was scared or not. ] A lonely existence shouldn't be a dead end. But for now, trust is all you have. For now.
[ kiraman going "what if upload but slightly left?" ]
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Neither did I.
[Kiraman was probably scared. He doesn't hold it against the guy.]
Your plans are to interfere. What are you going to try, to help a dead and controlled man?
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anyway kiraman frowns to that. ]
... you asked me before if I was human. What were you assuming?
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Your technology differs from what is available in Piltover and Zaun, perhaps even Runeterra.
[The true digital part.]
The way you spoke about yourself or your past, it simply gave the impression you had transcended the confines of mortality, humanity.
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... the process of uploading allows a person to leave their body behind. Their mind, or a digital copy of their subconscious, is uploaded into the cloud without any restraints. The number of embodied humans left is very, very small.
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Perhaps your version and my version are not as different as we think then. Everyone's minds were gathered into a single collective inside the space the Hexcore gave with the arcane. Their bodies became mechanical tethers instead.
No one is left anymore.
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[Similar.]
You plan to accept him into your flock?
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[The goal is good, the execution is atrocious.]
If your oasis is as stable as you say, then there would likely be no need to become sovereign within it.
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When someone else fixed that flaw, it then became his plan to release a virus that would infect millions of people and force them to upload. To "save humanity."
[ this is a simplification of many things, but he's making a point. ]
Stability didn't come until after he was erased.
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It is a bit more complicated with us. Getting rid of me would destabilize all the people who had been helped and connected. Getting rid of the power of the Hexcore would merit the same results.
However, as I said, it was missing something. A particular rune. The Hexcore hadn't been perfected yet. If the Hexcore's puzzle can be completed, then things may not have to be so uniform. Maybe the single collective doesn't need to exist alongside the ability to heal.
I won't know until Jayce has the right one.
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... when the flaw was in place in the first UIs, the faster they processed and the more energy they used, the faster their minds deteriorated. They were unstable to the point they would be destroyed if they kept functioning at their normal speeds. But when the cure was created, it became safer. Other UIs were able to be given the cure to stop the deterioration.
But the cure was other people. It was something the initial inventor hadn't considered before, and it's why he failed. Maybe the missing rune is... something outside of either of you.
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Perhaps that could be true. I don't believe it matters to me, or to the version of me here anymore. Though extending the message somehow to Jayce would be beneficial.
We will continue to try until the path changes, Jayce and I. Me setting the course in motion, and Jayce attempting to correct it.
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But that still doesn't solve the problem of what we're going to do with you now that you're here. Unless your plan is to maybe stay here permanently?
[ kiraman, unsure how that will work when viktor was a surprise to begin with. ]
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[He seems a tad amused.]
You already know he's going to want to go back, don't you?
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[ now that he can see the potential of viktor being sane... ]
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