[Looking at Gabriel in this thread which is before the time he can really look at Gabriel in this thread.]
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[He just can't find a single person who believes in the mindless hivemind of peace, can he? He frowns at the parts in front of him. Each piece of the blender works seamlessly in tandem with the rest to make it function, to produce the results everyone enjoys the most: drinks.
Isn't that how it should be? They have no feelings, no thoughts.]
Does being a blender without humanity, despite what all it can accomplish and provide, make it less necessary and worthy of its existence?
[ no! no he cannot! but gabriel's just watching him go, thinking about what viktor says and does. people are not machines though. ]
A blender doesn't have a soul, Viktor. Unless you're about to tell me something I don't know, at which case I might owe my blender an apology. Besides, can you really call those accomplishments those of the blender if they're preprogrammed by something else?
[The blender comes together again, and the arcane he pushes through it makes it run for a moment without being connected to the base.]
Do we not act on a predetermined will ourselves? Instinct, emotions, society, religion.
It is the only way for a peaceful world. Do people not care... about a peaceful world? About a world without pain or suffering? They want it, but... they do not want to do what is required to get there.
I don't know. That's then suggesting that we're all just God's puppets and don't actually have free will, and I don't know if I agree with that choice either. Of course people care about a peaceful world, but what you're suggesting to get there also takes away the positives of what would make a world peaceful. There's a difference between comfortable acceptance and true peace, maybe.
... besides, it also just feels like a lot to put on one person to be the center point.
[He says this, but the vibes don't seem to lean too heavily into it. More like when two friends just say some shit to each other to rile the other one up.]
When people do not work together because of their own emotions and personal goals, would one person not have to be the center for change?
I know what you will say: that person might not have the best interest in mind.
They would have to evolve beyond. They would have to become more impartial.
[The blender, fixed again, he offers back to Gabriel with a nod. Thank you. Zaun will now have milkshakes.]
[ this conversation is going to hit so differently in a few days. but he seems to accept the vibes without thinking too heavily about it. ]
And then you would know that I would say that asking someone to evolve and become more impartial is basically asking them to change everything about them, lose their own identity, all for the sake of unifying people in a way that may not always work.
[ but he does seem to think this over before taking the blender back. ]
... but that's where you're at, isn't it. Evolved beyond and impartial enough.
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[He just can't find a single person who believes in the mindless hivemind of peace, can he? He frowns at the parts in front of him. Each piece of the blender works seamlessly in tandem with the rest to make it function, to produce the results everyone enjoys the most: drinks.
Isn't that how it should be? They have no feelings, no thoughts.]
Does being a blender without humanity, despite what all it can accomplish and provide, make it less necessary and worthy of its existence?
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A blender doesn't have a soul, Viktor. Unless you're about to tell me something I don't know, at which case I might owe my blender an apology. Besides, can you really call those accomplishments those of the blender if they're preprogrammed by something else?
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Do we not act on a predetermined will ourselves? Instinct, emotions, society, religion.
It is the only way for a peaceful world. Do people not care... about a peaceful world? About a world without pain or suffering? They want it, but... they do not want to do what is required to get there.
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I don't know. That's then suggesting that we're all just God's puppets and don't actually have free will, and I don't know if I agree with that choice either. Of course people care about a peaceful world, but what you're suggesting to get there also takes away the positives of what would make a world peaceful. There's a difference between comfortable acceptance and true peace, maybe.
... besides, it also just feels like a lot to put on one person to be the center point.
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[He says this, but the vibes don't seem to lean too heavily into it. More like when two friends just say some shit to each other to rile the other one up.]
When people do not work together because of their own emotions and personal goals, would one person not have to be the center for change?
I know what you will say: that person might not have the best interest in mind.
They would have to evolve beyond. They would have to become more impartial.
[The blender, fixed again, he offers back to Gabriel with a nod. Thank you. Zaun will now have milkshakes.]
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And then you would know that I would say that asking someone to evolve and become more impartial is basically asking them to change everything about them, lose their own identity, all for the sake of unifying people in a way that may not always work.
[ but he does seem to think this over before taking the blender back. ]
... but that's where you're at, isn't it. Evolved beyond and impartial enough.