It is because most people's reason is clouded by their emotions. They want the essence of what I believe in, but not the process in which to obtain it.
[ she was going to very rudely be like 'well it sounds like they just don't want what you're offering then' but actually. that sounds kind of like uploading. which is a rough process, but a perfectly fine and good thing to do in mists's unbiased opinion! ]
Oh. Sometimes good things are behind a kind of scary-sounding process. I understand.
It does. It's one of the things I believed in the most. Peace. Harmony. A place people could live together, coexist without violence or war, pain or suffering. Disease, illnesses.
I don't know. That's what the cloud is like. Everyone can be healthy. Can look however they want and do whatever they want and live forever. And there's moderation so they can't hurt each other, either.
[ they don't even have to hivemind for it! just kill their physical selves!!! ]
... But there are still outsiders that want to hurt us.
People with criminal records aren't allowed into the cloud. It's kind of like Heaven, in a way. People who we aren't sure would behave aren't allowed in.
But a commune is a kind of different direction.
[ kind of seems like a last resort for the downtrodden. whereas the cloud was more of a luxury for people with the resources to afford it. ]
I can understand that. The very first man I healed, Huck, was a man consumed by drugs and disease. He tried to kill me with some others for... parts, likely to sell for the Shimmer that had become rampant in Zaun.
Healing them also healed their minds. There was always peace because they changed their ways after understanding their place in the collective.
[ i don't know that she totally understands the hivemind thing. and she usually believes that the regulations around the cloud are for good reason. but if he's able to help people and bring them peace, isn't that good? isn't that kind of like what they were hoping these weeks would do if they hadn't gone off the rails?
plus she was created to heal people's minds, so. same hat... ]
Even in the cloud, there's still disparity. Processing speeds—time itself—became a sort of currency when money stopped mattering. [ and CIs like her are basically second class citizens. ]
[She is right.... She is right! Viktor is the only person who thinks she is right. It's nice! It's a nice state of being...]
I see.
[Like her, he is still trying to piece together the digital format by what he has heard or saw of Kiraman. He loves it, the idea of it, too, but it is a bit more advanced beyond what he had come from. A little.]
We had no currency. We relied on bartering and trade amongst ourselves. On understanding the necessity of sharing.
It was a strong support for our way of life. Food was grown by everyone and shared as a community. Other work was divided, craftsmanship was exchanged, or simply done to help the collective.
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[ huh? ]
No, that seems bad.
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It isn't bad, but [a pause to exhale, resigned] you wouldn't be the first - or the last probably - to tell me such.
[DOES NO ONE HERE BELIEVE IN HIS HIVEMIND WITH HIM???? Where's Lucien?]
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Has anyone ever actually agreed with you before on this?
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It is because most people's reason is clouded by their emotions. They want the essence of what I believe in, but not the process in which to obtain it.
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Oh. Sometimes good things are behind a kind of scary-sounding process. I understand.
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Yes. The commune flourished actually. People were at peace. It wasn't a bad process of living.
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[ would love if we could have peace, actually. ]
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[He shakes his head.]
Why is it so difficult to create such a place?
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[ they don't even have to hivemind for it! just kill their physical selves!!! ]
... But there are still outsiders that want to hurt us.
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I understand. Outsiders did not care much for us if they didn't need healing. They didn't understand.
Caspian has spoken about... the cloud. A little. He said... the humanity was necessary.
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Without other people, Uploaded Intelligences would decay. They would die.
[ hm. ]
Did you ever turn people away for healing?
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I see.
[But he is Listening.]
No. No one was ever turned away. My aim was to help anyone who came to the commune seeking healing.
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But a commune is a kind of different direction.
[ kind of seems like a last resort for the downtrodden. whereas the cloud was more of a luxury for people with the resources to afford it. ]
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Healing them also healed their minds. There was always peace because they changed their ways after understanding their place in the collective.
[The Hive will make them obey.]
Equality helped it flourish.
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That sounds nice.
[ i don't know that she totally understands the hivemind thing. and she usually believes that the regulations around the cloud are for good reason. but if he's able to help people and bring them peace, isn't that good? isn't that kind of like what they were hoping these weeks would do if they hadn't gone off the rails?
plus she was created to heal people's minds, so. same hat... ]
Even in the cloud, there's still disparity. Processing speeds—time itself—became a sort of currency when money stopped mattering. [ and CIs like her are basically second class citizens. ]
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I see.
[Like her, he is still trying to piece together the digital format by what he has heard or saw of Kiraman. He loves it, the idea of it, too, but it is a bit more advanced beyond what he had come from. A little.]
We had no currency. We relied on bartering and trade amongst ourselves. On understanding the necessity of sharing.
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[ born in the cloud and her family was rich.......... ]
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It was a strong support for our way of life. Food was grown by everyone and shared as a community. Other work was divided, craftsmanship was exchanged, or simply done to help the collective.
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[ tactlessly: HOW'D YOU DIE ]
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...My former partner, Jayce, killed me in the commune. I don't know why, but he did call our Hextech a curse when we spoke previously.
Something had changed within him.
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[ she means this about jayce, not the hextech. what the fuck is hextech. it has tech in the name so it's probably fine and good. ]
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In a way. His mind... felt sick. The arcane had touched him somehow. He looked different. Older.
[Like, spiritually. He had aged about 80 years from his hell ordeal while Ekko got to kiss his not-girlfriend.]
I had spoke to him through Salo, one of his former fellow council members. He killed Salo after.
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He killed one of his own people?