I did kill him, so in the end there were things I couldn't abide by. But... I don't know if I can really judge someone by what they did at their worst, when they were at their most desperate.
Because at his best... Scien saved us all countless times without asking for anything in return.
Listen, Yves, I've done some insane things in the name of people I care about, but I think it stops being complicated when you do a genocide, and then you're just nuts. I'm not good at seeing the other side of hurting other people.
I don't blame you. I don't think that's a wrong way to think.
But... he just wasn't always that way. Even with everyone we lost, that's still nothing compared to the lives he'd saved. Me, Monsieur Lucas, Adolphe... we never would've even been born if not for Scien. And all those years, he asked for nothing. He saved people just because he wanted to, no matter what struggles he faced.
I guess. [ doesn't seem entirely inclined to listen, but thats because she doesnt know lucas is in a cult, which would make her less likely to think lucas is perfectly stable ] How's he responsible for you being born?
Because if he didn't invent Reliver technology decades ago, our island would've died out. My grandfather wouldn't have been able to become a Reliver, and my lineage would've stopped. 23 years... it really isn't that long, based on what everyone else is saying.
[ how could they ever expect to make it without some kind of insane clone technology? ]
And then he dedicated his entire life to stopping the curse.
Oh, that. I'm not saying his work on the Reliver technology is bad on principle--but there's some inherent flaws in it he hasn't worked on or let anyone else work on, either, from what I heard. I think that's ego.
[ she does seem genuine when she says the reliver tech is fine if flawed lucas cant make her a hater on that front ]
... but the Institute has been running for as long as he's been alive. He's not the only one working on things? If anything, I think most of the problems we had stemmed from the fact that we expected only him to save all of us for so long...
But if you're talking about the emotions flaw... by the end, he fixed those too.
I think that's why it hit him so hard. He had just finished remaking his heart when his lover was killed in front of him by Bourreau. The first emotions that he felt in sixty years must've been... the most overwhelming grief. To love and be loved, only to have it end so suddenly.
But... he did fix Reliver emotions after that. Because Scien does follow through on his word.
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[ well it seemed logical to not like it when he explained it, she can't think of lucas KILLING anyone that's her blorbo wtf...
also there's a long pause like she is not doubting you yves but also have you considered: ]
You just told me Scien killed off half the population of your island. What do you mean, "I don't wnat to judge him that harshly".
[ JUDGE HIM HARDER? ]
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[ yves looks thoughtful about it, contemplative ]
I did kill him, so in the end there were things I couldn't abide by. But... I don't know if I can really judge someone by what they did at their worst, when they were at their most desperate.
Because at his best... Scien saved us all countless times without asking for anything in return.
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Okay, but desperation doesn't usually lead to killing half an island's population.
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So he did everything he could to try to bring her back, even resorting to inhumane experiments.
I'm not excusing him... I couldn't stand for what he'd become, it's just... complicated, I think.
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I don't blame you. I don't think that's a wrong way to think.
But... he just wasn't always that way. Even with everyone we lost, that's still nothing compared to the lives he'd saved. Me, Monsieur Lucas, Adolphe... we never would've even been born if not for Scien. And all those years, he asked for nothing. He saved people just because he wanted to, no matter what struggles he faced.
So it feels... more complicated than that.
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[ how could they ever expect to make it without some kind of insane clone technology? ]
And then he dedicated his entire life to stopping the curse.
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[ she does seem genuine when she says the reliver tech is fine if flawed lucas cant make her a hater on that front ]
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[ he won't argue that ]
... but the Institute has been running for as long as he's been alive. He's not the only one working on things? If anything, I think most of the problems we had stemmed from the fact that we expected only him to save all of us for so long...
But if you're talking about the emotions flaw... by the end, he fixed those too.
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[ the rest of it she can like, dismiss more easily, but that one surprises her Wow Would Lucas Really Do That, Not Know Things ]
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Mm-hmm. That's...
[ a beat ]
I think that's why it hit him so hard. He had just finished remaking his heart when his lover was killed in front of him by Bourreau. The first emotions that he felt in sixty years must've been... the most overwhelming grief. To love and be loved, only to have it end so suddenly.
But... he did fix Reliver emotions after that. Because Scien does follow through on his word.
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... Remaking his heart?
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Scien always experiments on himself first, apparently. So he was the first test to see if Relivers could experience emotions, and it was successful.
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He might not be as bad as Lucas thought but I'm still not impressed with that guys' scientific ethics.
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[ softly ]
Scien is imperfect. He is arrogant and sometimes annoying on purpose, but he also showed me a lot of care and consideration on a personal level.
He's my friend, even now.