Like an external force? [ they're got their free hand over their mouth as they think it over ] I'm not kidding about there not being any access to heaven from the outside, so I don't know what could have even gotten to him. It could also be something that happened here that caused him to snap, I guess?

[ there's a sigh ]

Not that there's anything that would I can think of that'd cause that much of a change within him, but again, I didn't really get to know him much. It's harder for me to say. Which one is the lie--what he told you earlier this week, or what he's saying now?